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Do you belong to a club, school, church, or library which would enjoy seeing, hearing, and learning about mechanical musical instruments? We may have a member in your area that would be happy to share his knowledge with you. Call 610 459-0367, and we will do our best to have an MBSI member address your group.

Repairing Automatic Musical Instruments
Tune Availability
What is Not a Music Box
Collecting Mechanical Music
Instrument Appraisal
Instrument Identification and History

REPAIRING AUTOMATIC MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS

We are often asked about repairing music boxes and pneumatic instruments. The cost to do so will vary, depending upon the condition of the item, and that cost may exceed the box's value in the case of modern music boxes. However, when a strong emotional connection exists, repair cost may be a minor consideration. More elaborate pneumatic instruments or antique music boxes are almost always worth repairing, unless damage to them is extremely severe.

Most musical movements can be repaired, especially if the musical comb is intact. A competent repair specialist can substitute parts or make new ones, if original spare parts are unavailable. If the musical movement is beyond salvage, it can be replaced with a new movement from one of the modern manufacturers, often with a tune of the owner's choosing.

If an antique music box has suffered a run (when the governor controlling the unwinding of the spring motor disengages, allowing the cylinder to spin rapidly and violently), as evidenced by broken comb teeth or bent cylinder pins, this damage can be repaired by tooth replacement (or, if luck is with you, a substitute comb) and pin straightening by a skilled technician.




If your instrument needs repair or servicing, please consult the MBSI web site links page to find a qualified technician as near to you as possible. Some specialize in the repair of certain types of instruments, such as cylinder or disc music boxes, bird boxes and whistlers, mechanical organs, and automata. Our links page also lists dealers who buy and sell instruments as well as people who repair and restore almost the entire range of automatic musical instruments.

If there is no service technician conveniently near to you, it may be wiser to ship the instrument to one more distant than to entrust it to a person not accustomed to working with these rather specialized machines. In cases where you feel the need of a consultation but find no one nearby to consult, we may be able, by the use of our Member Directory, to refer you to a collector in your area who has experience in the care and operation of your type of instrument and whose advice may help you to find the best technician for your needs.

TUNE AVAILABILITY

Some people have a favorite tune that they would like to have their musical instrument or box play. In the case of a pneumatic roll-playing instrument, this is generally feasible, because there are arrangers and roll makers for instruments, large and small, who can produce an arrangement of the tune of your choice. However, in the case of cylinder music boxes this is more difficult.

Both Reuge, the sole surviving Swiss music box maker of the many that existed in the 1800's and 1900's, and Sankyo, a Japanese manufacturer, maintain an inventory of stock tunes on pinned cylinders, from the smallest 18-note novelty movement size to more musical 50-note movements. Sankyo's tune list is believed to be more extensive than Reuge. But even still, considering the millions of tunes that have been composed over the centuries, your chances of finding in stock the one particular tune of your heart's desire are slim indeed. 

Reuge will custom pin cylinders with the tune of a customer's choice, assuming the tune is suitable for arranging for a limited musical scale and for a playing time of short duration. Arranging costs are significant, and Reuge requires a minimum order for custom work. These factors price the work beyond the average person's budget.  

 An alternative worth exploring is a little 20-note, hand-cranked musical movement played by a punched paper strip. It is made by Sankyo and is available for around $60 from at least one MBSI member/dealer. It comes with five pre-punched strips, two blank strips, a hole punch, and instructions on arranging your own tunes for it to play.


WHAT IS NOT A MUSIC BOX? 

Just as installing a CD system in your automobile does not change its essential nature as a car, installing a small novelty-type musical movement in a cigar box does not make your cigar box a music box.

The MBSI is not able to tell you much about any collectible item into which the item's manufacturer has installed a small musical movement obtained from one of several makers. The place to go for information on those collectibles -- be they furniture, ceramic items, stuffed toys, jewelry boxes, or whatever -- is the group, magazine, or collectors' club which is interested in the item used to house the musical movement.  

There are exceptions to this rule. Musical Christmas tree stands is one such exception as are Lador powder boxes and musical photo albums. Boxes and watches sold under the Reuge name are usually worth repairing as are those made by Sankyo. There are a few others but by and large, when the significance of the musical aspect is far outweighed by the importance of its housing, the object in question falls outside the focus of the MBSI.

COLLECTING MECHANICAL MUSIC

Mechanical music was everywhere from about 1750 to about 1920 and is still being manufactured today. With so many of the existing antique pieces now in museums and private collections, is it still possible to build a collection of instruments? The answer is a resounding "YES"! Old mechanical music instruments constantly come into the marketplace through auctions, private dealers, estate sales, flea markets and through the marts of collector organizations.

 

 

There are many ways to collect mechanical music: You can try to collect one of each type of mechanical music instrument (not an easy task, and one that requires lots of space to store them). You can specialize in one type of mechanical music such as cylinder or disc music boxes, band organs, mechanical organs, musical automata or snuff boxes or any one of dozens of types of mechanical music instruments that can still be found today. Collections can also be built around mechanical music novelties such as cigarette lighters that play a tune, ladies' powder boxes with music, musical children's toys known as manivelles and even toilet paper rollers with built-in mechanical music. With an abundance of literature related to mechanical music, interesting collections of those items alone can be accumulated. Many of these items continue to be available at reasonable prices. When assembled into a collection, they present a fascinating picture of society as it was during the object's heyday.

One thing you should know: Just as in every other collecting category, the best pieces at the fairest prices go to those who have the patience to study the field. You should read books, join the MBSI and become somewhat knowledgeable before setting out on a buying spree. By joining a collector organization, you will have the opportunity to use its library, to learn from its experts, to see the members' collections, and to participate in all the fun and joy of exploring this fascinating field. After you have learned something about mechanical music and decided what you want to collect, you will have many opportunities to find or purchase an example for yourself and to enjoy its musical performance over and over again.

Seeing and hearing mechanical music instruments: True museums of mechanical music are few and far between and usually in remote places. Moreover, with some notable exceptions, instruments are not usually accessible and/or not restored, and their music cannot be heard. Most of the world's finest examples of mechanical music are in private collections or private museums, and are not readily available to the general public. Collectors of mechanical music do, however, have access to these amazing artifacts through collector organizations. Among the most notable are the Musical Box Society International (MBSI) headquartered in the United States, the Music Box Society of Great Britain (MBSGB) in England, the Gesellschaft für Selbstspielende Musikinstrumente (GSM) in Germany and the Association des Amis des Instruments et de la Musique Mécanique (AAIMM) in France. There are also similar smaller organizations in many other countries and a chapter of the MBSI in Japan.

One of the common characteristics of these organizations is that their members make their collections available to other members. Thus collectors can see and hear a variety of instruments far beyond anything available in any single museum or even groups of museums anywhere in the world. If learning about the field of mechanical music is of interest to you, consider joining one of the above mentioned societies. The cost is low and the rewards in terms of knowledge, pleasure and human relationships, are high! A listing of collector organizations whose focus is on mechanical music can be found under links.

INSTRUMENT APPRAISAL 

Many people email us asking, "How much is my instrument worth?" Unfortunately it is not possible for us to give a meaningful or reliable estimate of an instrument's value, because such an appraisal requires a hands-on examination. Rarity, desirability, and condition are prime factors in determining value, and a collector or dealer in your area are the persons best equipped to evaluate your particular instrument.  

There are lists of appraisers published on the web by such organizations as the International Society of Appraisers, whose website is at http://www.isa-appraisers.org. A 30-page list of appraisers in various fields, arranged by zip code is printed in Maloney's Antiques & Collectibles Resource Directory, 5th ed., 1999. Other, less reliable but useful sources for estimating an object's value are price guides such as the annual "Kovels' Antiques & Collectibles Price List," which you can find at your local library. Oftentimes your object or similar ones are offered on eBay, and the prices shown there may be a rough guide to market value. 

You may want to use our MBSI web site links page to locate a dealer specializing in your type of instrument who may be able to offer you more individualized advice than it would be possible to obtain from the sources listed above. Remember these two maxims: An item is worth only what someone is willing to pay for it, and A dealer can offer only a portion (perhaps 50%) of what he hopes to sell an item for, if he wants to remain in business.

INSTRUMENT IDENTIFICATION & HISTORY 

It is natural to want to know as much as possible about the musical instrument that you own and cherish. Fortunately much research has been published about every type of mechanical musical instrument that has ever been made -- from player pianos to carousel organs to automatic harps and violins to mechanical orchestra to cylinder and disc music boxes -- and the MBSI has much of it in its Member's Lending Library. 

 We are glad to provide brief answers to questions about instrument identification, as well as brief histories of the firm which made the instrument, to our website visitors. We can also refer you to the most authoritative information available, if you want more than the brief data we would provide via email. However, for a person seriously interested in the field of mechanical music, full membership in the MBSI is the answer.

 A good general reference book on mechanical music -- indeed the bible of the field -- is the "Encyclopedia Of Automatic Musical Instruments," by Q. David Bowers, a copiously illustrated, well-documented, 1007-page compendium first published (by the now-defunct Vestal Press) in 1972, and reprinted many times. It is still in print and to be found in most large libraries; if not in your local library, it is available via inter-library loan everywhere (ISBN 0-911572-08-2; Library of Congress record number 78-187497). Bowers' section on the Regina disc music box, for example, is very comprehensive, covering every aspect of company history and all Regina models (p. 170-212).

 For cylinder music boxes there are several books by experts such as Arthur W.J.G. Ord-Hume, Graham Webb, and others. The chief category of question we get about instrument identification is from people who want to identify the maker of their antique cylinder box. Cylinder box manufacturers did not often put their names on their products, leaving a retailer to claim the box as his.   

Let us say here that pictures of the cabinet work or woodwork of a cylinder box are of no value in answering the question, "Who made my music box and when?" What is very helpful, however, is a clear picture of the box's tune card or tune sheet. Ord-Hume and H.A.V. Bulleid have done considerable work researching tune card designs and linking them to the company that used each. If we see the tune card, we can usually say who made the box -- and if the picture is clear enough to allow use to read the handwriting of the tune titles, we may be able to approximate the date of its manufacture, from knowing when the tunes were composed. 

REGINA CERTIFICATES

One of the MBSI services available to everyone is our Regina certificate service.

MBSI is the keeper of the original Regina shipping records, saved from its Rahway, NJ, factory. Any owner of a Regina disc music box can obtain the pedigree of their Regina in the form of a certificate showing the date it was shipped and to whom. Send the serial number of the machine, together with a $5 check made payable to the M.B.S.I., to MBSI, PO Box 10196, Springfield, MO 65808-0196. Certificates may also be ordered on the MBSI Store page of this web site.

The serial number is stamped on a small raised area on the bedplate or, in some of the earlier boxes, into the circular platform on the center spindle of the Regina.

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